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A simple yes or no? Should she stay or should she go
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A simple yes or no? Should she stay or should she go

The Ontarion on February 12, 2010 with 1 Comment

As part of the new Life section, the Ontarion staff and volunteers will share their awkward anecdotes and uncomfortable situations on a weekly basis. Vote on our online poll each week on situations that are much more than simple yes or no questions.

Hell, I’ll admit, I’m probably the worst person to go out on a date with. I’ve been heavily influenced by the great modern philosophers of dating, most notably the dudes from Keys to the VIP and Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah I’m superficial. Yeah, okay, if a girl eats one pea at a time it’s a deal breaker.
I have problems.
But what happened to me the other night on a first date sparked debate amongst some of the greatest minds of the era (I have three friends doing their masters). And I believe my reasons for not calling this young woman back were justified, not neurotic as one academic put.
So we want you to decide.
So here it is, and mind you this really is a true story.
We went to a show. We laughed. I touched her hand. She smiled.
We walked downtown. It was snowing. Ah, she’s pretty.
So as we were walking I asked her if she was hungry and she said she certainly was. I liked her style.
So we dined, late as it was. When the meal got there I dug in. She picked at her meal.
This was the first alert.
Why say you’re hungry when you’re not? But okay, I cut her some slack. She was nervous right?
But when the bubbly waitress came and asked her if she wanted to pack up her meal, she said no. No? She had taken literally two to five bites. I was paying too!!
It wasn’t her small appetite that bothered me; it was the fact that she wouldn’t bag a perfectly good meal that I could have eaten the next day for lunch. Again, I cut her some slack. This wasn’t the deal breaker, I only tell you this little incident to contextualize my later decision.
So we left. It was still snowing. We laughed. Again I touched her hand.
So what, I was digging her. No big deal. I still liked her style.
So I invited her over to my place. We drank wine. We talked movies. She had never heard of Life Aquatic. Again, I cut her some slack. I was still digging her. My socks smelled. I changed them. I knew I liked her
So, then it began. A small kiss led to some heavy petting. A voyage into my bedroom let to an exploration of each other’s bodies.
So we had some fun, some PG 13 fun. As the legendry R & B singer Monica once said, ‘I don’t get down on the first night.’
And given that, you can only do so much PG 13 fun before it gets a little monotonous.
So we stopped. And then she did it.
Lying there, in my bed, she turned to me and said, ‘should I just, uh, maybe, uh stay the night?’
Okay, let’s be real, that’s not really a question. It’s a statement that’s she’s staying over. I didn’t really have a choice.
So again, lets break it down: it was the first date. I invited her up. I invited her to my room. I clearly showed that I was interested. It was three in the morning.
But here’s my thing: sleeping in the same bed with someone you just met is more intimate than having sex with them. You’re asleep; they could be awake watching you. Then there’s the spooning politics that inevitably ensue. Do we cuddle? Is there a morning kiss once both people are up? And fuck, sometimes, rarely, when I’ve had a lot to drink I’ve pissed the bed. Like three times. Four, maybe. And when it’s happened with a girl it’s been cool because I’ve been in long term relationships with them.
Goddammit I wasn’t ready for this.
But I had no choice. She stayed. And I slept pressed against the wall. I didn’t pee the bed, though.
So she left the next day. And I never called.
And so the debate ensued. When I told the story, opinion was divided. Some thought that because I had invited her up, because it was late in the morning and because we had fooled around, it was her ‘right’ to stay. Others felt that in no situation, regardless of the fact she was a woman and it was three in the morning, do you ever invite your self to sleep over.
And remember, she threw away a perfectly good meal.

You decide on the ontarion.ca. The question is: In this situation, should I have simply assumed she was staying the night when I invited her in. Yes or No?

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  1. Sharlet Easterbrook February 17, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Dear Deal or no Deal, It takes balls to admit you are superficial.We all are, but not everyone can admit it. Kudos. In regards to your question, there are many factors to take into account when deciding if this woman should stay or go, almost so many things i barely want to answer, and i should think you would get bored reading. I agree that this girl not taking the food to go is quite disrespectful considering you bought, however there are plenty of reasons she did not eat it in the first place. She could not have liked the food at all, and did not want to eat it latter, or she could have been like you said nervous, and just really liked you. Thinking is one thing us girls do a lot of. She could have been contemplating what to say,thinking about her next move, deciding weather she liked you enough to keep going, LOL hell she could have been thinking about her homework sitting on her desk at home that needs to be done. Also, if I was in her position and you asked if I was hungry, I would take that as a cue that you were and automatically say yes. I wouldn't want you to starve because i had eaten before the date and didn't tell you (I always do). Keep in mind that some girls don't like eating in front of their dates, and think that guys will not like them if they are seen slamming home a burger and fries. It may all have been for you in the first place. The question of weather or not you should have assumed she was staying the night when you invited her in is far more simple. It is your place, even if you would feel bad kicking her out at three in the morning, it is still your decision weather she stays or goes. You could have even offered to pay for a cab to send her back and would still have been gentlemanly. You should not have felt pressured by her question... because that is exactly what it was. I did not get the impression that she was demanding or assumed she was staying over from the quote in your article, it is you who assumed to much, and assuming makes an ass out of you and me. It was most likely a big decision for her to even ask if she could stay, but you could have been tactful and explained to her how much you do like her but that you were just not comfortable having her over so soon. One of the easiest things for you to learn is that saying what you are thinking and explaining how you feel will go a long way to avoid misinterpretation and awkward moments. You need to start thinking about the other person in the situation and where they are coming from. You say you judge your dates quite often on little things, but if the tables were turned i don't think you would find their analysis of you fair, and I'm sure you would feel the need to explain yourself to them. Give them that opportunity. This issue was both her and your fault, so you should not judge her for that. You both seem to like each other, and if you talk about what happened I'm sure you can both have a laugh and move on. I say she stays for the moment. Yours Truly Sharlet

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