Comments on: Islamic Burqas and Niqabs http://www.theontarion.com/2010/05/islamic-burqas-and-niqabs/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:46:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jordan http://www.theontarion.com/2010/05/islamic-burqas-and-niqabs/comment-page-1/#comment-3802 Jordan Mon, 10 May 2010 20:52:57 +0000 http://www.theontarion.com/?p=2640#comment-3802 though i for the most part agree with everything you have written, i am still against the burka ban. its just trying to paint over the actual problem-that is, of huge immigrant groups throughout Europe that have no desire to assimilate and join the societies they have immigrated to. the problem, which no one has the courage to say, is the immigrants themselves and not the clothes they wear. politicians believe if they make the veil go away then the problem will go too but its not a very good solution. furthermore...to suggest banning an article of clothing in the name of european values of "freedom" is absolutely ridiculous and oxymoronic. much like the "the European values of identity and being open"..what does this even mean? where do you get this idea from? by banning this article of clothing, all that will happen is a further detirioration of individual rights on the old continent, a place rife with totalitarian history. what gives the state the right to tell people what kind of clothes they want to wear? given how elastic values and the laws which represent them are, this would be a terrible threshold to cross, especially given the fact that these very immigrant populations will most likely make up of the majority of the european population in the coming decades, which will therefore undoubtedly bring about a change in values in laws. who knows, maybe then they will decide to ban jeans and make burkas mandatory, and they can cite this law as legal precedent, giving them the right to enact it. true, if they want to live in a muslim country, they should stay where they are, but to violate the rights fo all europeans for the people which the state invited there anyways is a bit unfair and dangerous though i for the most part agree with everything you have written, i am still against the burka ban. its just trying to paint over the actual problem-that is, of huge immigrant groups throughout Europe that have no desire to assimilate and join the societies they have immigrated to. the problem, which no one has the courage to say, is the immigrants themselves and not the clothes they wear. politicians believe if they make the veil go away then the problem will go too but its not a very good solution. furthermore…to suggest banning an article of clothing in the name of european values of “freedom” is absolutely ridiculous and oxymoronic. much like the “the European values of identity and being open”..what does this even mean? where do you get this idea from?

by banning this article of clothing, all that will happen is a further detirioration of individual rights on the old continent, a place rife with totalitarian history. what gives the state the right to tell people what kind of clothes they want to wear? given how elastic values and the laws which represent them are, this would be a terrible threshold to cross, especially given the fact that these very immigrant populations will most likely make up of the majority of the european population in the coming decades, which will therefore undoubtedly bring about a change in values in laws. who knows, maybe then they will decide to ban jeans and make burkas mandatory, and they can cite this law as legal precedent, giving them the right to enact it.

true, if they want to live in a muslim country, they should stay where they are, but to violate the rights fo all europeans for the people which the state invited there anyways is a bit unfair and dangerous

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